In episode 731, the hosts flip the usual "quest" framing and interrogate motivation through avoidance - what a character won't confront, what they dodge, and how that avoidance generates plot pressure across film and TV examples. It's a craft-forward conversation aimed at people who write visually for performance, but the underlying idea applies to prose too: pursuit isn't always heroic; sometimes it's evasion with a plot coupon.
The episode page also bundles a pile of follow-up links - screen time rules, residuals guidance, industry news - so it doubles as a small reading list if you're trying to stay current on screenwriting mechanics and professional infrastructure, not just scene beats.
(Shortened and summarised to avoid devaluing the source)